[hatari-devel] New home for Hatari (BerliOS will be closed on 31.12.2011)

[Nicolas Pomarède]

Le 30/09/2011 23:07, Eero Tamminen a écrit :

>> Apart from SourceForge, I think these are good alternatives:
>>
>> * www.nongnu.org : Uses pretty much the same web interface as berlios
>>    since both are derived from earlier versions of SourceForge, so we
>>    might feel at home there quite fast. Major drawback: They are very,
>>    very picky about the GNU philosophie, e.g. we would first need to
>>    replace Linux by GNU/Linux everywhere in our code and documentation,
>>    and IIRC they prohibit that a program links against a non-free
>>    library (which is not a problem for us yet, but we might need this
>>    one day for Pasti or one of the other disk image libraries).
>
> Maybe also:
> 	http://alioth.debian.org/
> ?
>
>> * github.com or gitorious.org ... we should also consider those if we
>>    decide to move to git ... I think they are quite popular amongst git
>>    developers.
>
> I have some stuff at gitorious.org.  It doesn't have a bug tracker
> nor web page hosting (but you can have wiki pages) which rules it
> out.
>
>
>> * tuxfamily.org : This is currently my favourite... A very friendly
>>    hoster, I already have another project there (baller.tuxfamily.org)
>>    and made good experiences there so far.
>
> Did you base your project on original baller sources?
>
> I have cleaned up Baller sources here:
>    http://koti.mbnet.fi/tammat/hatari/sources/baller-src.tar.gz
>
> (I've ANSIfied the sources and fixed signedness&  int size etc issues)
>
>
>>    Servers are located in Europe
>>    (==>  fast for most Hatari developers), they offer Mercurial
>>    repositories, mailing lists and webspace. Only drawback: We would
>>    need to install our own bugtracker at the website, there are no
>>    pre-installed bugtracking services.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> Tuxfamily looks very good, but it seems to live on donations:
> 	http://www.tuxfamily.org/en/support
>
> I.e. it could get the same issue as BerliOS?

Hello

according to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_software_hosting_facilities 
(assuming it's up to date) the only services that provide at least
  - mercurial
  - web hosting
  - mailing list
  - bug tracker

are alioth, sourceforge and tuxfamily.

Maybe gnu savannah too, but as it was said, they seem to have a strict 
licence requirement ; I'm not sure it would go with all the pieces we 
could have in Hatari in the future (I don't care about GPL over BSD 
licences, but I don't really like the idea to force the licence to GPL 
to be hosted there ; someone could contribute some free non gpl code to 
Hatari and it would be a problem)

I don't know alioth, neither tuxfamily and have no idea on their viability.

So maybe the safest bet would be to go back to sourceforge ; maybe they 
include some commercials, but if we look for safety and don't want to 
rely on donations-only hosting, this could be the best tradeoff. It 
would be annoying to move Hatari hosting every 2 years.

As Thomas said, we still have our account there, so importing stuffs 
should be possible without too much problems.

Or go to tuxfamily (they're french, so it's certainly a good solution :) 
) if you have a good experience with them ?


But what about the mailing list ? It would be nice to be able to import 
the berlios archive into sourceforge (or other) maiing list ; can it be 
done ?

Nicolas